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    mickeypotthoff 4:39 pm on November 4, 2010 Permalink | Log in to leave a Comment
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    Elizabeth Costello 

    J.M. Coetzee’s novel ‘’Elizabeth Costello’’ was published in 2003. It concerns an Australian writer with a name eponymous to the the book’s title, who has long left Australia, and now spends her days in Great-Britain. Travelling around the globe with her son John she gives lectures on various subjects, such as the value of the contemporary novel. Praised as a writer for her work, and especially her famous novel ‘’House on Eccles Street’’, Costello feels she has reached a stage where the writing part stops, and where the part begins where she can sit back and enjot being lauded for her complete oeuvre. Costello often asks her son John whether they can leave a conference or some gathering of people coming to listen to her speech, however, she also quickly realises that this would indeed hurt her name. Then, grittingly, she does in fact get on with it, albeit unwillingly. Coetzee’s novel consists of a narrative which is built completely around several of the lectures Costello gives. Ironically, most, if not all, of these lectures are highly remniscient of lectures Coetzee has given himself. Some, in fact, mirror his speech exactly. It seems that the novel is more focused on the speeches than on the narrative itself, and to aid in that principle Coetzee has come up with a handy device to create this focus.
    What Coetzee often does in his narrative is interrupting it. The narrator, whose identity remains unknown throughout the novel, announces every few pages that it is now time to skip over a part in the narrative as there is no necessity for the telling of it. This then raises suspicions about why this would be done. It can be said that, because of the seeming speed of the plot, Coetzee gives himself the opportunity to focus more on Costello’s/Coetzee’s speeches. It is, however, unclear as to why Coetzee would want to achieve that speed. Another reason, as pointed out in class, would be that in interrupting the plot focus could shift to the literary value of the text. This is the case as the plot itself is not as strong as the lectures and thus the novel would gain literary value by emphasising its strong points rather than its weaker parts.
    A further reason for skipping plot parts is given by the narrator itself. He says: ‘’We skip to the evening, to the main event, the presentation of the award (Coetzee 16).’’ This implies that the narrator only skips over small, unnecessary parts of the plot, which either have no relevance, or which is simply not interesting. Albeit so that this is not surprising it is an innovative device which, undoubtely, adds a layer to Coetzee’s novel. And, because only small scenes are skipped over, it means that any potentially dull parts can also be completely abandoned in favour of the lectures.
    Although the skipping of scenes is found throughout the novel it features primarily in its earlier stages. An undefinite reason why Coetzee has slightly abandoned his device cannot be pointed out, but it seems that the character developement of Elzabeth Costello is a part of this. As the plot progresses Costello changes as well; she spends far less time remniscising her old days of glory, and more time wondering about her own writership. Furthermore, she connects much less with her son. All these circumstances simply call for more to be said about Costello, and thus, for less to be skipped over.
    Coetzee’s ‘’Elizabeth Costello’’ is a novel and a collection at the same time. A narrative built around speeches of the main protagonist calls for bits to skipped over and focus on the lectures, and this is exactly what is being done by Coetzee. He uses an excellent, innovative device that speeds up the novel and which creates a context through which the speeches can be viewed not simply as seperate from the plot, but as incorporated in it.

     
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      thomashvv 2:21 am on November 5, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Mickey, dank voor je mooi geschreven stuk! Het enige wat ik een beetje mis, is een eigen uitgangspunt, het lijkt meer een beschrijving van (een aspect van) deze uiterst boeiende roman, dan dat je echt iets zelf presenteert. Dat de de roman een verzameling en een roman tegelijk is, lijkt me namelijk bijna een feit, in elk geval geen echt eigen standpunt; maar wellicht is dit ook helemaal geen vereiste.
      Met betrekking tot de temporele overgangen: ik heb zelf niet helemaal het idee dat die er, zoals jij in je slotzin suggereert, voor zorgen dat de lezingen worden geïncorporeerd in de plot. Ja natuurlijk zijn de lezingen en de rest van de plot hierdoor wel met elkaar verbonden, maar dat had Coetzee ook op andere, simpelere manieren kunnen doen. Hij zou bijvoorbeeld kunnen zeggen ‘Later die dag’ in plaats van ‘nu slaan we het een en ander over’. Sterker nog, in andere romans bedient Coetzee zich van deze eerste (gangbare) manier – dus er moet nog iets anders aan de hand zijn. Dat heeft er meen ik mee te maken dat dit boek niet alleen een roman is, maar ook grotendeels over de roman gaat. Niet alleen gaat een deel van de lezingen over literatuur, ook onderzoekt deze roman op andere manieren de mogelijkheid van de roman zelf; daarom worden er volgens mij ook lappen lezing in verwerkt, biografische gegevens, en wordt de man (Coetzee) een vrouw (Costello), en speelt Coetzee ook met temporele overgangen. Maar hier zullen vast allerlei gecompliceerde, doordachte essays over geschreven zijn die ik niet ken, dus met grove argumentatie kan ik niet aankomen: het is alleen het gevoel dat ik bij he lezen van Elizabeth Costello kreeg.

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      jorisbrakkee 10:27 am on November 5, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Mickey, een mooi, duidelijk stuk, maar niet heel vernieuwend. Ook zet ik vraagtekens bij je conclusie dat Coetzee de door jou beschreven trucs gebruikt om het plot te versnellen. Ik vraag me namelijk af, welk plot wordt er dan versnelt? Het enige dat er versnelt wordt volgens mij is de opeenvolging van lezingen, en daardoor laat het minder ruimte voor de plot zelf. Alhoewel ik dit helemaal niet erg vond en het een mooie roman/verzameling vond, vind ik zijn verteltrucs niet helemaal functioneren zoals jij dat voorstelt.

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      rebeccadrees 2:00 pm on November 5, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hey Mickey, Ik ben het wel ergens een beetje eens met Joris. Zoals we weten is de plot in het boek sowieso een beetje ver te zoeken, de narratief zit eigenlijk los van het geheel. Het is net zoals er gesteld was in de les, dat we eigenlijk zelf geneigd zijn een plot eraan te verbinden terwijl er een duidelijke speling van de temporele en logische opeenvolging is. Want we weten natuurlijk niet zeker of alles chronologisch na elkaar is geschreven. Misschien was dit invalshoek (voornamelijk plot gericht) niet de beste aanpak van het boek.

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      ellenswart 6:08 pm on November 5, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hoi Micky,

      Ik vond eigenlijk dat er ook wel interactie was tussen de verteller en de lezingen. Bijvoorbeeld het eerste hoofdstuk ‘Realism’; waarin Costello ingaat op de vraag wat realisme is. Een van haar uitspraken is dan “the word-mirror is broken” (p. 19)
      De verteller gaat hier wat mij betreft op in; zoals jij ook zegt slaat hij de ‘saaie’, ‘onbetekenende’ stukken van het verhaal over. Hij benadrukt daarmee dus dat deze tekst geen realistische vertelling is – in tijd, maar ook door zijn eigen aanwezigheid. Wanneer een verteller zich zo duidelijk presenteert, wordt immers duidelijk dat hij alleen datgene vertelt wat hij interessant vindt. Dus stel dat hij het verhaal van de bestaande persoon Elizabeth Costello vertelt, zullen we hem zeker wantrouwen.

      Overigens zag je dit ook wel terug in de film Wonder Boys; daar schreef de hoofdpersoon een boek en kreeg hij als commentaar te horen dat hij in zijn vertelling geen keuzes had gemaakt. Het maken van keuzes werd daar als noodzakelijk gesteld, waarmee dus ook afstand werd gedaan van het realisme. Bovendien wordt je door een dergelijke uitspraak van een personage ook op het fictionele karakter van de film zelf gewezen.

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    mickeypotthoff 3:50 pm on November 4, 2010 Permalink | Log in to leave a Comment
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    I’m a country girl myself, she would like to say, but does not, though it is true, in part. Nothing exceptional about being from the country

    J.M Coetzee
     
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    mickeypotthoff 3:48 pm on November 4, 2010 Permalink | Log in to leave a Comment
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    ”Show me what an oral poet can do.” And he laid her out, lay upon her, put his lips to her ears, opened them, breathed his breath into her,showed her.

    J.M Coetzee
     
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    mickeypotthoff 2:20 pm on October 23, 2010 Permalink | Log in to leave a Comment
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    There is first of all the problem of the opening, namely, how to get us from where we are, which is, as yet, nowhere, to the far bank. It is a simple bridging problem, a problem of knocking together a bridge. People solve such problems every day. They solve them, and having solved them push on.

    Elizabeth Costello – J.M. Coetzee
     
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    mickeypotthoff 12:02 am on October 16, 2010 Permalink | Log in to leave a Comment
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    Kepesh and Femininity in Roth’s ‘The Dying Animal’ 

    Philip Roth’s novel ‘The Dying Animal’ (2001) is the third installment in a series concerning literature professor David Kepesh. It describes David Kepesh at an old age rather than predecessors ‘The Breast’ and ‘The Professor of Desire’ do, and it is a gripping novel from beginning to end. In this novel Kepesh has a relationship with student Consuela Castillo for whom he developes a romantic interest during his classes and during a party at his house. There is, at first, a clear unbalance in their relationship as Kepesh is, due to his position as professor, public figure, and self-proclaimed intellectual, in control of her. Kepesh even admits this disequilibrium in saying ‘’There is no sexual equality and there can be no sexual equality, certainly not one where the allotments are equal, the male quotient and the female quotient in perfect balance. (…) It’s the chaos of eros we’re talking about, the radical destabilization that is its excitement (Roth 11).’’ And it is this unbalance that characterises the novel. Consuela Castillo and David Kepesh are never equals at one point; there is always a certain instablity between them.
    At least one of the causes of instability in the relationship between Kepesh and Castillo is the promiscuous personality of the older of the two. He is characterised by his intellectual abilities which he uses to entice women, and his many affairs with, allegedly, hundreds of women. He also has an almost uncontrollable need for sex. It even goes as far as there being a particualr scene where he is shown thinking ‘’She thinks, I’m telling him who I am. He’s interested in who I am. That is true, but I’m curious because I want to fuck her. (…) How much more am I going to have to go through? Three hours? Four? (…) I want to fuck this girl, and yes, I’ll have to put up with some sort of veiling, but it’s a means to an end (Roth 18) .’’ Because of insights in Kepesh’s mind one could even go as far as saying that he considers women as objects, which are disposable, and which can be replaced as they mean nothing more to him than ‘simple’ women he can sleep with. Another option is that Kepesh is not looking for women because they are women, but rather because they are people he can exert power over, and assert his own dominance.
    There is, however, a turning point in the novel where the balance of power indefinitely switches from Kepesh to Castillo. This is, undoubtely, the scene where Kepesh performs an action similar to semi-rape on Castillo to which she responds by showing him her teeth in unmistakable fashion. From that moment on Castillo at least has the physical edge over Kepesh. It is not clear yet at that point whether the balance of power has switched entirely as, in performing the action, she does not speak. Thus, Castillo partially emancipates and takes control with that one particular action, but she is not completely ‘on top’ yet. This final act of taking control occurs in the penultimate scenes where Castillo relates her life to Kepesh. This last switch is unexpected, and happens only because Castillo is diagnosed with breast cancer. This causes her to lose one of her breasts, and with that one of the ‘things’ Kepesh is so very interested in. Paradoxically, this hands the agency to Castillo as Kepesh cannot leave her even though he now covets her less in the physical sense. He then appreciates her for who she really is, and decides to go to her. He is however stopped by the person whom he is relating his tale to, and it is left to the reader to decide what happens next.
    The most important woman in ‘The Dying Animal’, Consuela Castillo, is an object in this novel. Her professor David Kepesh has complete control over her for most of the novel, and even when this is no longer the case she is still objectified. While it is difficult to say that all women in ‘The Dying Animal’ are seen and described as objects it is safe to say that Consuela Castillo is objectified. This only fuels the debate about Philip Roth and whether or not he is a misogynist writer.

     
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      floork 12:18 pm on October 16, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hoi Mickey, goed geschreven essay en interessant om te lezen, ik vind het alleen jammer dat ik je eigen menig een beetje mis. Dat in ‘The Dying Animal’ de vrouw, en dan voornamelijk Consuela, wordt neergezet als object is duidelijk, en dat heb je ook heel duidelijk geanalyseerd. Wat ik me alleen afvraag en wat naar mijn idee niet echt naar voren komt, is wat jij hier zelf van vindt. Je noemt het debat over of Philip Roth een misogynistische schrijver zou zijn, wat zou je hier zelf van zeggen op basis van deze (en misschien nog andere) roman?

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      simonevs 8:15 pm on October 16, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hi Mickey en Floor,

      I like how you analyse the role of Consuela in The Dying Animal. I do worry however when you state that ‘this only fuels the debate about Philip Roth and whether or not he is a misogynist writer’. What exactly is it that you mean: that Roth writes interesting stories ABOUT mysogynism? Or that Roth is a misogynist himself? If in any case, the latter is what you mean, I have to disagree that this is not worth debating. Firstly, because it is quite impossible (the same dilemma occurs when you tell somebody: ‘prove that you’re not a racist’) and secondly because it is irrelevant when discussing Roth’s literature. For sure, if you are planning to write a biography of P.H this may be of interest, but otherwise it would be very simplistic to state that, because Roth’s work entails misogynistic characters, the author too is a misogynist. Is Nabokov a pedophile because he wrote Lolita? Is Jonathan Littel a nazi because he wrote a 900 page book about from the perspective of an SS-officer? Or – to point out the absurdity of such an argument -, is Flaubert an aldulterous woman because he wrote Madame Bovary?

      Whether you actually meant is as such or not, an interesting discussion anyway;-)!

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      crispiness 1:47 pm on October 18, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Mickey,

      while I agree that Kepesh objectifies Consuela when he is still seducing her, I’m not sure if he is still objectifying her by the end of the novel. You identified the turning point as being the moment where Consuela snaps back at the professor, an event which is followed by Kepesh’s jealousy, his drinking of her blood, her rejecting him and her eventually relating the story of her disease to him. As you say, after she loses one of her breasts, “this hands the agency to Castillo as Kepesh cannot leave her even though he now covets her less in the physical sense. He then appreciates her for who she really is, and decides to go to her.” However, in your conclusion, you seem to contradict yourself by saying: “Her professor David Kepesh has complete control over her for most of the novel, and even when this is no longer the case she is still objectified.” If, in the end, Kepesh has learned to appreciate Consuela ‘for who she really is’, doesn’t that mean he has effectively stopped objectifying her, or is there some subtle distinction I’m not properly understanding?

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        Jeroen 2:49 pm on October 18, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I agree with crispiness, I’d like to see some elaboration on whether or not, and in what form, Kepesh’s objectification of Consuele continues.

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      bobreijnen 3:31 pm on October 24, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Ik twijfel sterk aan hoeveel macht Kepesh over Consuela heeft — zowel in het begin als op het einde. En ook in hoeverre zij geobjectiveerd wordt. Bijna direct bij het begin van hun relatie, maakt Consuela Kepesh gek. Hij wordt niet alleen gek van verlangen naar een begeerlijk object, maar ook van jaloezie en onzekerheid. Dus het lijkt me dat zij vanaf het begin al veel meer macht heeft over hem dan andersom en dat er geen louter ‘lustobject’ is die zoveel sterke gevoelens in iemand losmaken. Je kunt moeilijk verliefd worden op een object. Kepesh verliest juist de afstand die nodig is voor de esthetische ervaring van een object.

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        Daphne Boutens 1:29 pm on October 26, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Daar ben ik het mee eens. Consuela zegt zelfs in het begin dat ze nooit van Kepesh zal zijn. Daardoor grijpt zij al een deel van de macht. En omdat dat haar anders maakt dan de andere meisjes is Kepesh zo bang om haar te verliezen. “That was not Consuela. Yet, that was why the fear of losing her to someone else never left me, why she was continually on my mind, why with her or apart from her I never felt sure of her.” Het is duidelijk dat, bewust of onbewust, Consuela macht heeft over Kepesh.

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          winonah 10:37 pm on November 5, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Ik ben het ook met Bob en Daphne eens. Als docent en als ‘expert’ op cultureel gebied heeft hij misschien meer macht, maar verder lijkt zij inderdaad vanaf het begin meer macht over hem te hebben. Dat dit zo overkomt zou natuurlijk ook kunnen komen omdat het verhaal een terugblik is, dat haar macht achteraf zo ingevuld wordt door Kepesh.

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    mickeypotthoff 11:20 pm on October 2, 2010 Permalink | Log in to leave a Comment
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    ”Don’t.” What? ”Don’t go.” But I must. Someone has to be with her. ”She’ll find someone.” She’s in terror. I’m going. ”Think about it. Think. Because if you go, you’re finished.”

    Philip Roth- The Dying Animal
     
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    mickeypotthoff 10:04 pm on September 12, 2010 Permalink | Log in to leave a Comment
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    No human teacher has ever found on the entire earthly globe such a student of human beings.

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